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"If I [Jesus] bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." (John 5:31)
"I [Jesus] am one that bear witness of myself..." (John 8:18)
According to these scriptures, Jesus was a false witness.
The quote should be Jn 8:14, anyway. 8:18 is actually the answer! [Oops - watch that ellipsis ( )]. It reads: "I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me. " So, according to Jewish Law (man's, of course) the Father's witness still "counts" for two.
The second quote is referring to John the Baptist as the second (legal) witness: "If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is valid."
Modern translations also render 8:14 "Even if I testify on my own behalf " and "But even if I do judge "
"And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary...." (Matthew 1:16)
"And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being ... the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli..."(Luke 3:23)
These may refer to two different lineages - both from David. Mary's is the second in Luke, Joseph's was the second mentioned in Matthew. Talmud mentions "Mary, daughter of Heli "
The second idea is that both genealogies are Joseph's, but the Matthew is the "legal" lineage of David, and Luke's is the "actual".
Also, the names Jacob and Heli (Eli) could be two names for the same man (e.g. Jacob, Israel).
"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"(John 10:34)
According to this scripture, Jesus thought that the Jewish law (i.e., the Old Testament) reported that he said the Jews were gods.
The quote from Psalms refers to the Jewish leaders of the time, of whom God also said " but you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler." In other words - they were "like gods" (little "g"). The point was that God called them in David's time also "sons of the Most High" - which Jesus was claiming - and pointing out the Jews hypocrisy for not considering this Biblical reference blasphemy.
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh...." (Romans 1:3)
Only someone woefully ignorant of the Biblical story could come up with this interpretation. The NIV uses a much better rendering that reflects the meaning: "regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David.
"And I [Jesus] say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do." (Luke 12:4)
"Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple..." (John 8:59)
"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because Jews sought to kill him." (John 7:1)
Why would one conclude that Jesus was avoiding stoning out of fear? If Jesus was a coward, he certainly would have escaped the cross by simply denying His divinity in front of Pilate.
His time had not yet come (John 7:6,8,30, etc.) - it was pure expedience.
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I [Jesus] tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three." (Luke 12:51-2)
"Think not that I [Jesus] and come to send peace on earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)
These first two are clearly spiritual references - to put God above even family in importance.
"...for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." (Matthew 26:52)
This does refer to the physical - said to Peter as he cut off the ear of Malthius.
"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36)
And to think that these ravings are supposed to be the sayings of one come call the prince of peace.
The first statement probably means simply - "Now that I will be gone - you will need to prepare yourselves to stand alone as men do". Perhaps it refers to a defensive use of the sword, or even as a tool, like a hunting knife - since the passage earlier referred to provisions.
"For I [Jesus] am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." (Matthew 10:35-6)
"If any man come unto me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)
"And call no man your father upon earth..." (Matthew 23:9)
Again - this refers to the spiritual importance of placing God first.
"Honour thy father and thy mother..." (Matthew 19:19)
Honoring God first certainly does not imply not honoring parents - the term "hate" is used to establish relative importance.
"All that ever came before me [Jesus] are thieves and robbers..." (John 10:8)
This was a parable. Jesus wasn't referring to his followers at all, but to those who would enter like thieves into the sheep and steal them from the loving Shepherd - i.e. false teachers (like these atheists!)
"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I [Jesus] will liken him unto a wise man..." (Matthew 7:24)
"And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee; for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish..."(Matthew 5:29)
Who in their right mind would pluck out their eye and think that it was profitable?
This is another idiotic conclusion, purposely drawn out of context - I would certainly pluck out my eye, considering the rest of the quote: " for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell"
Amen?!
"And it was the third hour, and they crucified him." (Mark 15:25)
(John 19:12-18) clearly shows that he was not crucified until after the sixth hour.
One of three explanations is certainly enough to explain this.
1 - Mark could be using Jewish time (from 6 AM), and John Roman (from midnight).
2 - Mark could have referred to the beginning when Jesus was sentenced, and John to when he was actually led to execution.
3 - Could refer to "watch" - dividing day into 8 - 3-hour "hours" or watches. This puts the Third hour, 6 to 9 a.m., Sixth hour, 9 to 12 midday. The crucifixion could have happened around 9:00 AM.
"Then was fulfilled [by Jesus] that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet..."(Matthew 27:9)
It was Zechariah, not Jeremy, who made that prophecy. See (Zechariah 11:12)
"...that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He [Jesus] shall be called a Nazarene." (Matthew 2:23)
There is no mention by the Old Testament prophets that this Jesus fellow would be called a Nazarene. God was often confused when writing the Bible.
Some feel that this is a legitimate mistake - albeit made by transcriptionists, or even by Matthew himself quoting from memory, since the prophecy is clearly from Zechariah - the Hebrew for the names is similar.
A more likely explanation is that the books of prophecy were arranged in a group starting with Jeremiah - no book, chapter and verse were included then, and Matthew was referring to the whole section of minor prophets, beginning with Jeremiah. McDowell states that the Jews considered the minor prophets as one book. According to Geisler and Nix, the old testament did not get modern chapter divisions until the 13th century.
Either way, it makes no statement about the whole Bible's validity.
"Verily I [Jesus] say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things [the end of the world] be fulfilled." (Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32)
Referred to the spiritual kingdom of God - predicting His own death and resurrection, not the "end of the world".
"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22)
Jesus was speaking to his apostles (who were able to perform miracles). However, this is also an allusion to the unlimited power of God, available to all believers who pray in His will.
The early followers of Jesus died waiting for the end of the world, and even today, over 1900 years later, some Christians still believe that the world is to end in their generation, and that Jesus will give them anything that they ask for in prayer.
So, why not believe this?
His friends come to Jesus' tomb, but the doorstone is rolled away and one angel sitting on the outside gives the news to them before they go in. (Matthew 28:1-8)
His friends come to the tomb, go inside, find nobody, are perplexed, and then two men give them the news. (Luke 24:1-4)
The other resurrection stories are different as well.
Easily explained by several accounts of the same event. Matt 28:2 does not have to follow chronologically verse 1. Verse 2 says that one angel was sitting on the stone, but not that he was the only one around (the other "man" could have been Jesus - consider John 20:14) . Since Matthew mentions specifically that the guards "shook and became like dead men" when the angel rolled back and sat on the stone, the guards were there at that time. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary may not have looked around if the guards were still there, and so arrived later.
Also - the angels were in the tomb - not outside when they spoke to the women (Mark 16, Matt 28:8, Lk 24:4, John 20:11 - all four Gospels agree.
They ran to tell the others, who ran back to the tomb. None of the four accounts contradicts this sequence.
--Scott Tucker